“Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze
“The outward form of the mass has been modified [as a result of the “Spirit of Vatican II”]
To make it much more similar to our communion services than when it was said in Latin [The now Extraordinary Form], but the differences in its basic meaning remain..
The Roman Catholic doctrine [actually it’s a dogma] of the mass was established at the Council of TRENT,
Patrick j Miron delusion and invention of new fact's #1,289
fact---[NO! The Mass dates back to at least the second Century A.D.]
[1] which affirmed, among other things, that it is a “sacrifice of expiation…. of sins and the punishment for sins … not merely for the living but also for the poor souls in Purgatory
[2] {Ludwig Ott, Fundamentals of Catholic DOGMA, pp. 412-413}. The Roman church thus teaches that Christ’s sacrifice is renewed at each mass
[3], and that each time the mass is said, this renewing of His Sacrifice adds a bit of merit that can count towards ones’ salvation.
[4]. When mass is said for the dead, it supposed to reduce by an unknown amount of time they must suffer in Purgatory for their sins.
[5] In practice, many people, probably the majority in most Roman countries
[6], have been taught that after death in the family they must give
[7] more or less and unending offering to priest for masses to shorten their loved one’s time in purgatory. [MY NOTE: a continuation of Luther’s “selling of Indulgences issue“ ?]
[8] This is particularly tragic for widows who are often poor and very religious.
[9] While many priest are not in agreement of this doctrine, and do not even accept offerings
[THANK YOU!] for the mass in these conditions, others bring to mind the admonition of Christ in the scriptures…
Mark 12-38-40
[Mr. Heinze went so far as to even be quoting the Catholic New American Bible… again THANK YOU!].
“And in his teaching he said, "Beware of the scribes, who like to go about in long robes, and to have salutations in the market places and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at feasts, who devour widows' houses and for a pretense make long prayers. They will receive the greater condemnation."
In Italy, the very heart of Roman Catholism, there is a saying which is often used when someone wants to say “you only get what you pay for.”
Translated word for word it is “Without money, they don’t sing the mass.” [10]
Patrick j Miron delusion and invention of new fact's #1,289
fact---[NO! The Mass dates back to at least the second Century A.D.]
[1] which affirmed, among other things, that it is a “sacrifice of expiation…. of sins and the punishment for sins … not merely for the living but also for the poor souls in Purgatory
[2] {Ludwig Ott, Fundamentals of Catholic DOGMA, pp. 412-413}. The Roman church thus teaches that Christ’s sacrifice is renewed at each mass
[3], and that each time the mass is said, this renewing of His Sacrifice adds a bit of merit that can count towards ones’ salvation.
[4]. When mass is said for the dead, it supposed to reduce by an unknown amount of time they must suffer in Purgatory for their sins.
[5] In practice, many people, probably the majority in most Roman countries
[6], have been taught that after death in the family they must give
[7] more or less and unending offering to priest for masses to shorten their loved one’s time in purgatory. [MY NOTE: a continuation of Luther’s “selling of Indulgences issue“ ?]
[8] This is particularly tragic for widows who are often poor and very religious.
[9] While many priest are not in agreement of this doctrine, and do not even accept offerings
[THANK YOU!] for the mass in these conditions, others bring to mind the admonition of Christ in the scriptures…
Mark 12-38-40
[Mr. Heinze went so far as to even be quoting the Catholic New American Bible… again THANK YOU!].
“And in his teaching he said, "Beware of the scribes, who like to go about in long robes, and to have salutations in the market places and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at feasts, who devour widows' houses and for a pretense make long prayers. They will receive the greater condemnation."
In Italy, the very heart of Roman Catholism, there is a saying which is often used when someone wants to say “you only get what you pay for.”
Translated word for word it is “Without money, they don’t sing the mass.” [10]
[1] While “affirmed by the Council of Trent”
“If anyone denies that in the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist are contained truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as in a sign, or figure or force, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, Canon 1).
this was no new, or even recent declaration.
It is historical fact that “the mass” is a yet clearly defined and unregulated manner was celebrated by the Apostles and the early followers of Christianity.
This is clear from both secular historical information, the bible itself and the writings of the early Church Fathers.
Here is a sample of the evidence. In the Bible the first termed for what was to become known as “the mass,” was “the Breaking of the Bread”
“If anyone denies that in the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist are contained truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as in a sign, or figure or force, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, Canon 1).
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“If anyone says that Christ received in the Eucharist is received spiritually only and not also sacramentally and really, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, Canon 8).
this was no new, or even recent declaration.
It is historical fact that “the mass” is a yet clearly defined and unregulated manner was celebrated by the Apostles and the early followers of Christianity.
This is clear from both secular historical information, the bible itself and the writings of the early Church Fathers.
Here is a sample of the evidence. In the Bible the first termed for what was to become known as “the mass,” was “the Breaking of the Bread”
THE BIBLE:
Luke.24: 35 “Then they told what had happened on the road, [to Emma'us,] and how he was known to them in the breaking of the bread.”
Acts.2: 42, 46 “And they devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and fellowship, to the breaking of bread and the prayers. …
And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they partook of food with glad and generous hearts,”
[Homes were the first physical churches].
And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they partook of food with glad and generous hearts,”
[Homes were the first physical churches].
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